If there was a knowledge after this torn and driving discussion at “hard but fair”, it was not a particularly surprising thing: it was that the new coalitioners and their new opposition are still looking for the best possible position from which they operate under the time pressure of the situation. Do you leave the hard tones of the election campaign behind you as soon as possible because you urgently need those that you have just declared inadequate? Or do you remind a little longer of the slogans and insults from days and weeks ago to gain more scope from it?
At Louis Klamroth, these positions marked Herbert Reul, CDU interior minister of North Rhine-Westphalia, and on the other hand the Greens Federal Chairman Felix Banaszak, which was only briefly switched on at the beginning. It was the most interesting thing about this evening to watch the two politicians how close they came not to talk about yesterday.
Although for different reasons: Reul because it is not pleasant to be reminded of the hard attacks on the Greens and the categorical no to relax the debt brake with which his boss Merz made until recently. And Banaszak, because it looks sovereign to appear above such attacks by reminding the factual questions. And so they worked ahead, for each clearer sentence a vague.
Union and SPD have presented a breathtaking defense and infrastructure package. They want to suspend the debt brake for defense spending and set up a 500-billion euro special assets. This is only possible with a change in the Basic Law and a two -thirds majority in the Bundestag, so it is only possible with the voices of the Greens – if it is possible to bring the package to the old Bundestag. The Greens had rejected the plan in the afternoon before the evening of this program and instead presented their own legislative package.
The world is on fire, but the climate crisis is not meant
“I can understand that the stinkesauer are,” said Reul now at “Hart but fair”, where you could see your origin from North Rhine-Westphalia. There his CDU has been ruling with the Greens for a long time, so he understands that it is now a different time: “The world is on fire and the poker!”, Reul called, and briefly was irritated, but he did not mean the climate crisis with the flames, but the American president Trump.
The “reliability,” said the Interior Minister, was no longer given, there is a “damn dangerous situation” and a “new situation” under Trump, but actually, who remembered the first week of November, at the same time when the traffic light bursts. Then Michael Bröcker, the editor -in -chief of Table Media, needed Reul to remind Reul that the aggressiveness and the U -turn of Friedrich Merz “could not explain any German with Trump”, then the audience in the studio was briefly loud.
“We want to make this Germany fit again!” Explained the Saarland Prime Minister Anke Rehlinger, who is sitting in the exploratory team for the SPD, early on the show, and she did this with all the emphasis that you can appeal to if you obviously ruled this unit Germany until five minutes.
Where the social democrat Rehlinger sits
Rehlinger sat right next to Reul when “internal security, terrorism and migration” listed in one breath and in this order. However, the social democrat also looked for the position with the greatest possible scope for interpretation for her party. She referred to European law on the one hand in the planned migration policy teases, on the other hand, she appealed to Merz's negotiating skills towards the German neighbors, later she also shared the worries of the peace activist Gesa Lonnemann, who asked Klamroth about the increasing defense spending.
Such short talks on the edge of the round are part of the dramaturgy of most politicians. That evening, however, the interlude only contributed to the navigation of the whole. And ultimately, the appearance of the ARD correspondent in Ukraine, Vassili Golod, which can only be admired for his work and transparency, unfortunately only brought one element into a conversation with a lot of torn thoughts. Albeit a dramatic one.
The Wirtschaftswaise Veronika Grimm reminded (not for the first time) that stable financial economies for Europe is also a question of security and defense. Jan van Aken from the left admitted that Putin is an imperialist. But when the evening came to an end, you only asked yourself who the Green Federal Chair Felix Banaszak was probably talking to after leaving Klamroth's broadcast after twenty minutes of switching. The time pressure is enormous, it was felt by how indistinctly it was discussed here.
